Transcript and commentary of "Audio Recording of March 1, 2007 Eric Nakao-NYPD-FDNY Encounter"
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[0m50s – 1m34s:
Jittery background noise stops, maybe sound of bus pul ling away and traffic
noise in back, probably because I exited the bus at my usual stop just south of
Melbourne Ave on Main Street to walk to Queens College.
Due to the traffic noises and perhaps sometimes to a lack of loudness
or articulation by the speaker(s), there are many unintelligible parts in the
remainder of this recording which I have indicated with the abbreviation
“unintel” such as used above. The abbreviation “m” means “minutes” and “s”
means “seconds” which denotes how many minutes and seconds have passed from the
start of the recording. For example, the “1m34s” for this entry means that 1
minute and 34 seconds have passed.
After exiting the bus, I noticed a dark blue New
York City Police Department (NYPD) Traffic Enforcement car (#7119) parked near
RK Uniforms, a small store at 6725 Main Street that provides equipment to the
police and others which is a few stores to the south of my bus stop. When I
went closer to the traffic enforcement car to get a picture, I noticed an NYPD
police car was parked a few cars behind it. The police car pulled out soon. I
took a video and a few quick pictures of one or both of the cars from various
angles, then started to leave, but then noticed another (or the same) NYPD
police car pull in and park just south of Melbourne Avenue. I took a few
pictures of this car also and wrote down its identification number (1868) and
the traffic enforcement car’s number in my journal. I have a small 3” x 5”
journal that I write down things that I feel might be relevant to my
conspiracy-like situation (FN1) and other things of interest to me.
The memory card containing
the video and pictures indicates that the video and pictures of the NYPD police
car(s) and traffic enforcement car were taken between 3:40 p.m. and 3:42 p.m.
on that day. The indicated time appears to be fairly correct since my first
class started at 3:55 p.m. and I usually tried to time my travel so that I
could arrive at my Main Street and Melbourne Avenue bus stop with at least 10
or 15 minutes to spare for my walk to class. (FN2)
Unfortunately, my audio
recording device did not have a feature that indicated the date or time for a
recording, but I believe it is from the date and time I indicated above based
on my journal entry for that day, the date and time on the memory card for the
video and pictures of the police and traffic enforcement cars for that day and
from my own memory and analysis.
"FN" in parentheses followed by a number refers to a footnote, though in this case an endnote. For example, (FN1) refers to footnote 1. The footnotes (or endnotes) appear after the end of this transcript.]
"FN" in parentheses followed by a number refers to a footnote, though in this case an endnote. For example, (FN1) refers to footnote 1. The footnotes (or endnotes) appear after the end of this transcript.]
[1m34s – 1m50s: Brief,
unintel, kid-sounding voice, then brief, unintel, foreign-language-sounding
male(s).]
[1m51s – 3m16s: No dialog]
[3m17s – 3m26s: Brief,
unintel, foreign-language-sounding male(s).]
[3m26s – 3m38s: Brief,
distant, unintel male(s).]
[3m46s – A white-sounding
male with a New York-accent talks to me & I respond. I think it’s the
heavyish white-looking male NYPD cop (WM COP1) who had exited the NYPD police car
(1868) that had just parked further north, just south of Melbourne Avenue, that
is mentioned above. A black male cop (BM COP) exited the police car also and
approached me with WM COP1.
My journal entry says that
the name on WM COP1’s nametag might have been “EWART” or something similar and
that the name on BM COP’s nametag might have been “RICHARDS” or something
similar. BM COP may have also physically resembled the son character in the
1970’s sitcom Sanford and Son. (FN3) WM COP1 may have somewhat resembled a younger version of the Archie
Bunker character from the 1970’s sitcom All In the Family.
I actually didn’t realize my
audio recorder was turned on when WM COP1 and BM COP approached me, though I
had tried to turn it on. But apparently it was still on from when I was on the
bus since I sometimes forget to turn off my recorder. I often audio record my
surroundings when suspicious events occur or may occur.]
WM
COP1: What are you doing? (unintel) What have you got going on here?
EN:
A journal.
[As I said above, I had taken some pictures of the police
and traffic enforcement cars after I
exited my bus. But from the audio recording, it seems that when WM COP1 and BM
COP were approaching me I had finished taking pictures by then and was writing
in my journal. My video camera would probably have been back in my fanny pack
at this point since I would need one hand to hold my journal and the other hand
to write with.]
WM
COP1: Yeah? Of what?
EN:
Of my daily activities.
[3m55s]
WM
COP1: Oh yeah? I tell you what. Get your hands out of your pockets. Turn
around. Do you got anything on you (unintel). Get your hands up here, both of
them. Why are you writing down movements of police vehicles and everything,
dude? (FN4)
[When I put my hands against the wall of the building as
told to by WM COP1, he and also BM COP, I believe, checked the pockets and
lining of my lightweight jacket which contained no weapons or I believe
anything else for that matter and had no suspicious bulges that may have been
weapons. I don’t believe I had reached into my jacket pockets. My journal says
that I had tried to reach into my t-shirt pocket to turn on my audio recorder
to record our conversation and then that WM COP1 had told me to put my hands
against the wall as I was trying to do this. But my audio recorder was
apparently already on as I said before. (FN5)]
EN:
You’re following me around.
WM
COP1: What?
EN: You guys are following me around.
WM
COP1: You got a mental problem or something like that?
EN:
No.
WM
COP1: What are you doing, man? Let’s see what we got here.
[WM COP1 takes my journal from my hand or had already
taken it & tries reading it. Since I did not give him my consent to either
take my journal or read from it, I believe these two actions were unwarranted
also. (FN6)]
Last
entry. (unintel) Get your hands back. (unintel)
[I may have tried to lower my hands from the wall since
he and BM COP had stopped checking my jacket and found nothing and we were
seemingly going on to something else which I felt did not require me to keep my
hands against a wall especially since they had found no weapons after frisking
me.]
Don’t
do anything funny. (unintel)
[He reads from my journal.]
Four
to five cops. (unintel)
What
does that say? Out loud.
[He has me read from my journal which he is still holding.
My hands are still up against the wall. In retrospect, I probably shouldn’t
have cooperated with his demand that I read from my journal, but I was feeling
very intimidated at that point.]
EN:
Crowd.
WM
COP1: What?
EN:
Crowd.
WM
COP1: Keep going.
EN:
(unintel)
WM
COP1: Read it. You just wrote this stuff, dude.
[Much of my journal is in abbreviations and
shorthand-like symbols though, plus my quick jottings might not be easy to
read. And being pressured by WM COP1 in this stressful and confusing situation
probably isn’t helping. I probably didn’t especially want to read my private
journal to him either.]
EN:
(unintel) Seven out.
[I’m not sure what this
means, maybe “72 out” which would mean I exited my train at the 72nd
Street station.]
WM
COP1: What’s this say?
EN: BM talks (unintel).
EN: BM talks (unintel).
WM
COP1: What?
EN:
Black male talks, distant.
[I’m interpreting my
abbreviations sometimes as I read.]
WM
COP1: What does that say?
EN:
Seventy-one.
[Maybe the Forest Hills-71st
Avenue subway station in Queens.]
White
male (unintel)
[5m]
WM
COP1: What does that say?
EN:
(unintel) “train” (?) and (unintel)
[In this transcript, a question mark in parentheses
following a word(s) in quotation marks is where I’m kind of guessing the
word(s) in the quotation marks based on the sound, the context and the
intelligible parts. Question marks not in parentheses following word(s) not in
quotation marks are just regular question marks denoting a question.]
WM
COP1: (unintel)
EN:
(unintel)
WM
COP1: Read me this part with this cop stuff up here. Where the what? What does
that say?
EN:
Mm, person stands where I usually stand.
WM
COP1: “What about” (?) here? Four to five what?
EN:
Four to five cops stand platform opposite (unintel)
[My journal says that there
were four to five cops standing on the opposite platform of the subway station
I usually use when I start going from my apartment in Manhattan to Queens
College. (FN7)]
[Car alarm-like in back.]
WM
COP1: Twelve thirty four. What’s this say?
[12:34 p.m. for the time of day.]
EN:
Start (unintel)
WM
COP1: What’s this say?
EN:
12:42 p.m. Siren. OK (unintel) delete temp (unintel) 12:48 (unintel) computer
(unintel)
[I misread an abbreviation for the word “check” as “OK”
judging from my journal entry for that date and time.]
WM
COP1: Dude, why are you writing down my “RP” (?) number and a D.O.T. truck
number?
[Probably the identification numbers that are
conspicuously displayed in several places on NYPD police and traffic
enforcement vehicles for identification purposes. I had written down their numbers
at the bottom of that journal page, maybe for later inclusion in the main body
of my journal when I had the time to write about that incident. WM COP1 calls
it a D.O.T. (Department of Transportation) truck, but looking at the pictures I
took from that day, the vehicle in question had the acronym “NYPD” written on
its side in big letters, so I believe it was a New York City Police Department
traffic enforcement vehicle, not a Department of Transportation traffic
enforcement vehicle. (FN8)]
EN:
Well, like I said before, you guys (unintel) cops are following me around.
WM COP1: (unintel) Where is your ID? “Don’t reach
for it.” (?) Where is your ID?
[6m]
EN:
(unintel) My, my pocket.
WM
COP1: Front or back?
EN:
Front.
WM
COP1: Front? (unintel)
[WM COP1 goes through things in my right front pants
pocket while BM COP does the same with my left front pants pocket. I don’t see
why he couldn’t have just asked me to show him my ID since they had found no
weapons on me before.]
EN:
Did I do something illegal?
WM
COP1: Yeah.
EN:
What?
WM
COP1: You did something that caused a lot of, a lot of alarm here. You’re not
supposed to be taking pictures of uh. You’re not supposed to be taking pictures
of vehicles (unintel) since 9/11. You know that, right?
EN:
No.
[I don’t believe that taking pictures of police or
Department of Transportation vehicles or even of cops themselves is illegal,
even after 9/11. In fact, Smith v. City of Cumming, a 2000 federal appellate
case, and Robinson v. Fetterman, a 2005 federal district court case, had ruled
that members of the public have a First Amendment right to take pictures of the
police. (FN9)]
WM
COP1: No vehicles, no bridges. No all that stuff. Firetrucks, firetrucks.
EN:
I’ve never heard of that before.
[I’d also been taking pictures of firetrucks and writing
about them in my journal since they sometimes drive by me with their sirens
blaring and may be part of my conspiracy situation, though I hadn’t mentioned
firetrucks to WM COP1. I may have taken pictures of bridges in the past, but
probably for aesthetic purposes.]
WM
COP1: Well, you haven’t heard of that. “Dude,” (?) it’s all over the news, man.
BM
COP: I’ve got a (unintel) student card right here.
[A deeper-voiced cop speaks every once in awhile. I’m
assuming this is BM COP since he’s the only other cop there at this point.]
WM
COP1: You do? What’s his name?
BM
COP: Eric Nakao.
WM
COP1: (unintel) Eric Nakao. Yeah? Is that how you pronounce it, Nakao?
EN:
Yeah.
WM
COP1: I want to know why (unintel) That’s a big, that’s a big thing (unintel),
man. A big “no no.” (?)
[7m]
[BM & WM COP1 talk to
each other, I think, unintel.]
EN:
(unintel) my money (unintel)
[I’m worried about the cops, who are still going through
my pants pockets without my consent, having taken money from my pocket (over several
hundred dollars). Also, since they already have my student identification and
that’s what WM COP1 had said he was interested in, I don’t see why they are
still going through my pockets. My journal says they had also taken my social
security card and passport. (FN10)]
BM
& WM COP1: (unintel)
[Female voice coming over
walkie-talkie-sounding device (W-T FEMALE) walkie-talkie-sounding beeps, etc.]
W-T
FEMALE: (unintel) clear. (unintel) Main Street.
[BM & WM COP1 & I are on Main St., a little south
of Melbourne. A male voice sounds like it is responding to the female voice
over the walkie-talkie-sounding device (W-T MALE).]
W-T
MALE: (unintel)
W-T FEMALE: (unintel)
W-T
MALE: (unintel) Ten-four. “Show her a sign” (?)
W-T
PEOPLE: (unintel)
W-T
MALE: Thirty-four and (unintel)
W-T
FEMALE: Thirty-four
W-T
MALE: (unintel)
W-T
FEMALE: That’s “sixty-eighth” (?) Avenue and Main.
[68th Avenue is
the name of the street to the south of Melbourne Avenue. We’re standing on the
northbound east side of Main Street between Melbourne Avenue and 68th
Avenue.]
WM
COP1: “You understand why (unintel) done, right?” (?)
EN:
(unintel)
WM
COP1: You have no idea why I can (unintel) doing this?
EN:
No.
WM
COP1: Where do you live? What’s your address?
EN:
Uh,
[Address withheld for privacy
reasons.]
Manhattan.
[W-T FEMALE background,
faint.]
WM
COP1: (unintel)
EN:
Manhattan.
WM
COP1: What you got here?
EN:
(unintel)
[I’m not sure what WM COP1
is referring to here.]
[8m]
W-T FEMALE: (unintel) “harassment” (?) (unintel) “4708”
(?) (unintel)
WM
COP1: You understand, you understand (unintel)
EN:
(unintel) “lived in” (?) Manhattan (unintel) but ever since then.
WM
COP1: “For work though, right?” (?)
EN:
Like I said before, (unintel) police are following me around.
WM
COP1: But why would they be following you? (unintel)
EN:
Because, um, I’ve, I’ve complained about things in the past.
WM
COP1: Like what?
EN:
Oh, (unintel)
WM
COP1: Like what? (unintel) and stuff like that? What?
EN:
(unintel) been harassed before by Scientology and like that.
[I had also complained in the past about the police
following me around, but I didn’t mention this to WM COP1 in my brief, somewhat
scattered, attempt at an explanation of my rather complicated theory. (FN11)]
WM
COP1: Harassed by what?
EN:
By Scientology and like that. I’ve complained to the police department, but
they wouldn’t do anything, so. It’s been going on for awhile.
BM
COP: (unintel)
WM
COP1: And you have no idea why we’re upset about you filming all this (unintel)
writing vehicles and stuff down like that. You have no idea.
[9m]
EN:
I have no idea, (unintel)
WM
COP1 (interrupts me): After 9/11, why would, why would you be filming (unintel) (FN12)
EN:
Is it illegal though? Is it illegal?
WM
COP1: Dude, it’s a problem.
EN:
(unintel) illegal.
WM
COP1: All right, listen. The illegality’s got one thing to do with it. “The
system’s” (?) got another thing to do with it, you understand?
EN:
Why would you (unintel)
WM
COP1 (cuts me off): Agh, why would, hold on. The whole thing is, I don’t know
who you are. Once I know who you are (unintel) I’ll let you relax. (unintel)
don’t have a gun pointed at you or nothing like that. We’re just trying to find
out why someone would video police cars. And then what I did, was I turned
around to see what you would do again and then you filmed me a second time
(unintel) recording my movements (unintel).
[It sounds like he’s saying
that I had filmed him outside of his police car, but I don’t believe I had done
this, if this is what he meant. In fact, when I first asked him if I had done anything
illegal he said it was illegal to take pictures of vehicles. He didn’t say
anything about my having photographed him outside of his police car. (FN13)
My journal also says that BM
COP had been the one who had said they didn’t have a gun pointed at me, but in
reviewing the audio recording, I believe it was WM COP1 who had said this.]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: that I don’t know.
EN: (unintel)
[Loud traffic noise drowns
out me & cops talking for around 20 secs.]
[10m]
W-T
FEMALE: (unintel)
WM
COP1: Do you have any, do you have any psychological problems?
W-T
FEMALE: (unintel)
EN:
No.
WM
COP1: Nothing?
EN:
No.
W-T
FEMALE: (unintel) “Cambridge to Inley roll” (?)
BM
OR WM COP1: (unintel)
EN:
It’s not illegal to videotape police officers though, is it?
WM
COP1: Oh, yeah. You’re not supposed to be filming that.
EN:
“Yeah?” (?)
WM
COP1: Firetrucks, bridges
EN:
I’ve never heard that before.
WM
COP1: (unintel)
EN:
I’ve never heard that before.
WM
COP1: Oh, then you don’t watch the news much, do you?
EN:
No.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE: (unintel) 1023218 (unintel)
BM
COP OR WM COP1 OR BOTH: (unintel) police officers (unintel) bridges, Verrazano,
(unintel) tunnels. All that stuff. (unintel)
EN:
(unintel)
BM
COP OR WM COP1: Yeah.
EN:
(unintel)
WM
COP1: (unintel) It’s not like, can I take your picture with you? That’s one
thing. (unintel) then you’re videoing my movements. (unintel) You can take your
hands down now. Sorry about that.
[My journal says that BM COP had been the one who had
said I could take my hands down from the wall, but in reviewing the audio
recording, I believe that WM COP1 was the one who had said this. (FN14)]
EN:
Were you waiting here for me?
WM
COP1: Huh?
EN:
Were you waiting here for me?
WM
COP1: No, I went to the store to see if I could buy earplugs.
EN:
(unintel)
WM
COP1: They didn’t have any. (FN15)
[I’m not sure if I believe him when he says he wasn’t
waiting here for me. I feel like they or someone directing them may have
already known who I was and this was some kind of set up.]
EN:
NYPD (unintel)
WM
COP1: That’s a traffic enforcement. They write meters and meter violations
[11m]
WM
COP1: (unintel)
EN:
That looked suspicious to me.
WM
COP1: Why did it look suspicious? It’s a law enforcement vehicle.
EN:
I felt, I felt like they were following me around before.
WM
COP1: Uh.
EN:
(unintel) It looked suspicious. (unintel)
WM
COP1: Uh.
EN:
I wasn’t bothering “you” (?) or anything. I just took it. I didn’t do anything
with it. I just took it.
BM
OR WM COP1: The (unintel) making you look suspicious while you’re filming them.
(unintel)
EN:
I told you. I told you.
WM
COP1: I know you did.
[11m25s – 11m48s – No
dialog. W-T FEMALE in background periodically.]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE: (unintel)
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE: “Seven-eleven.” (?)
WM
COP1: What’s your date of birth? What’s your birthday?
EN:
Uh, 8/26/57.
[12m]
WM
COP1: (unintel) at all? Was you suspicious of him or something or what?
EN:
No, it’s just that you, you were both there when I got off (the bus) . . .
WM
COP1: Were you talking to him at all?
EN:
No. This is my usual stop. (bus stop)
[BM & WM COP1 talk to
each other briefly: (unintel)]
[12m23s – 13m9s – No dialog]
[13m10s –13m33s: Faint BM & WM COP1 bits of talk to
each other, W-T PEOPLE return: (unintel).]
WM
COP1: Right here. I what? I, what does that say? Say it loud so I can hear. I .
. .
[He’s having me read from my
journal again which he still has.]
EN: I (unintel)
WM
COP1: What?
EN:
I (unintel) “455” (?) (unintel) “5517” (?)
WM
COP1: (unintel)
EN:
(unintel)
WM
COP1: What does that say?
EN:
Wheelbag move.
[I call the piece of luggage
with wheels that I have a “wheelbag.”]
WM
COP1: What?
EN:
Wheelbag move.
[14m]
WM
COP1: (unintel) That’s the word ‘move’?
EN:
Move. (unintel) Wheelbag move (unintel) Express. Crowdish. Quiet.
WM
COP1: Dude, you’re not telling me the truth. That doesn’t say ‘quiet.’ There’s
an ‘rd’ in there and everything.
[Maybe he’s referring to the “rd” in my abbreviation of
“crowdish” which my journal shows I had written as “crd” followed by a symbol
for “ish,” which is followed by the abbreviation “qt” for “quiet.” It seems
like he should have known that I had abbreviated “qt” as “quiet,” not “crd(ish
symbol).”]
EN:
Crowdish. Quiet. (unintel) 72 out.
WM
COP1: 72 out?
EN: Station. Train station.
[14m33s – 14m42s: No dialog,
faint w-t talk.]
[Faint BM & WM COP1
talking to each other or maybe on w-t: (unintel)]
WM COP1: All right. Ten-Four.
BM
COP: (unintel)
WM COP1: I didn’t know they had (unintel)
[BM & WM COP1 faint talk
to each other: (unintel)]
[15m]
WM
COP1: Read this “document” (?) Keep going. From here. 1-7-2 Street?
EN:
7-2
[WM COP1 is probably misreading a slash symbol that I
often use to separate passages in my journal as the number 1.]
WM
COP1: 1-7-2 Street? At 1-7-2 Street? At 1-7 . . .
EN:
Seventy-two. (unintel)
W-T
MALE: “Central, did you copy that?”
WM
COP1: At what? Speak up so I can hear you, man.
EN:
(unintel) O.V. I’m not sure what that says.
[“O.V.” for “orange vest”
like maintenance or construction workers wear.]
WM
COP1: You’re not sure what that says. You wrote it.
EN:
Yeah. “L.M.” (?)
WM
COP1: Dude, if you don’t start reading exactly what (unintel) I’m going to lock
you up and send you to the (unintel) OK? I’m not kidding you. And they’re going
to interview you and they’re going to have someone try to read this. You
understand what I’m telling you?
[My journal says that at some point WM COP1 said that
they will have “intelligence” people come and talk to me or that I’d have to go
talk to them, so maybe that’s where WM COP1 had said he was going to send me to
in the unintel part.]
EN:
Well, I’m trying to (unintel)
WM
COP1: You just wrote this two seconds ago.
EN:
No. It’s been about half an hour ago.
[The part he’s having me read had happened around a half
hour ago which may have been around the time I had written it down also.]
WM
COP1: Dude, I was watching you.
EN:
I just wrote the last couple of things down.
WM
COP1: (1-syllable, unintel)
EN:
This is abbreviation also.
BM
& WM COP1: (1-syllable, unintel)
[15m47s – 15m56s: No dialog]
[15m57s – 16m6s: Faint W-T
PEOPLE]
[16m7s – 18m16s: No dialog
from me, BM or WM COP1. Brief pedestrian-like voices sometimes. Maybe one brief
faint W-T PERSON. Continuing traffic noises.]
[18m17s – 20m20s: Sustained W-T PEOPLE return, but
faintly. Brief pedestrian-like voices sometimes]
[I think from 15m47s to
20m20s may have been when WM COP1 went to Iver Printing and Copy Center, a
nearby copy shop at 6703 Main Street that’s located a few stores to the north
of the police equipment store. He came out later with many sheets of paper. I
could see a copy of one of my journal pages on the top page. BM COP had stayed
near me on the sidewalk.]
WM
COP1: Watch (unintel) for one second. Hold (unintel) right here. (unintel).
BM
COP: (unintel) right there.
WM
COP1: Uh huh.
[20m28s - 20m52s: No dialog]
[An older white-looking male cop (WM COP2) who seemed to
outrank BM & WM COP1 came to us sometime around this point, though I don’t
recall his uniform being much different than their uniforms. Maybe I assumed he
outranked them because he looked older and because he came after the first 2
cops and I believe started questioning me. I seem to remember him having a more
distinct New York accent than the others and he seemed to somewhat physically
resemble former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani. I didn’t have any possible
name on his nametag written in my journal though. A younger Latin-looking male
cop (LM COP) came with him. My journal entry says that the name on his nametag
may have been “ALLORO” or something similar. He seemed to physically resemble a
Latin-looking male student who attended a terrorism class with me at John Jay
College awhile back in the spring of 1994 and who would sometimes talk to me
briefly in that class. The class was taught by a former employee of the CIA.]
WM
COP2: What’s in your bag?
EN:
(unintel) Notebooks.
WM
COP2: What?
EN:
Notebooks. Mostly.
WM
COP2: For school?
EN:
Like
WM
COP2: School?
EN:
Like school notebooks. Papers.
[21m4s – 21m45s: No dialog]
WM
COP2: (unintel) cops. The car numbers (unintel)
EN:
(unintel) like I told them before, I felt like cops were following me around.
WM
COP2: Why?
EN:
surveilling me . . .
WM
COP2: Why?
EN:
(unintel)
LM
COP or WM COP2: Why do you feel they’re surveilling you?
[My journal says that LM COP had asked me why I thought
cops were surveilling me, but in reviewing the audio recording, I feel that
this is WM COP2 who is saying that here. It’s possible that I’m incorrect in
saying that WM COP2 was the one with the distinct New York accent and that the one
with such an accent was LM COP, but I believe it was WM COP2 and therefore,
every time I believe that a person with such an accent speaks in this audio
recording, I’ve attributed it to WM COP2. Also, with 4 male cops as possible
speakers now, I may be mistaken in some of these other attributions as well.]
EN:
I’ve had problems before, I’ve reported like crimes and things like that.
[22m]
WM
COP2: Right.
EN:
Like (unintel) and I’ve had Scientology bothering me. So I’ve told the police
before and they’ve never done anything, so.
WM
COP2: Right.
EN:
(1-2 syllable unintel)
[22m9s – 22m18s: Faint MALE
COP talk.]
WM
COP2: Do you have anything on you that we should know about?
EN:
Uh, no.
WM
COP1: What’s in that, that bag right there?
EN:
It’s my “camera” (?) (unintel)
[Probably my video camera in
my fanny pack. Since we seem to be talking in the present tense, I probably
still have my video camera at this point.]
WM
COP1: Yeah, uh . . . No weapons on you?
EN:
No. (1-syllable, unintel)
WM
COP2: No? Now why, why are these co-, all these cops always following you
around?
EN:
Like I said “to you” (?) before, I’ve complained before about different kind of
things that have been happening to me (1-syllable, unintel)
WM
COP2: What’s in here?
[Probably my wheelbag.]
EN:
Mostly papers.
LM
COP: (unintel) look at it. Is that OK? Can you open it up for us? Is that all
right?
[My journal says that LM COP
was the one who had asked me open my wheelbag.]
UNIDENTIFIED
FEMALE (probably pedestrian passing by): “Hi, officer” (?) (unintel)
[22m53s – 23m7s: Bag-opening
noises, faint MALE COP talks: (unintel)]
UNIDENTIFIED
COP: What are you taking in school?
EN:
Uh, library science.
UNIDENTIFIED
COP: Library science?
EN:
Yeah.
[Faint MALE COP talks:
(unintel)]
[I’m continuing to show them
things in my open wheelbag.]
WM
COP2: What’s that? What’s that? What’s that in the corner?
EN: Notebooks.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
WM
COP2: What is (unintel)
EN:
Notebooks.
WM
COP2: Notebooks? All those notebooks?
EN:
Yeah.
LM
COP: (unintel) any one. I don’t care.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel) this one.
EN:
Yeah.
[My journal says that LM COP had asked to see one of my
old journals from my wheelbag which I called “notebooks” during this exchange.
I believe I had given him one to look at. The earlier “school notebooks” I had
referred to earlier were larger notebook-folders for 8 ½” x 11” school papers
mostly.]
[23m54s - 24m5s – No dialog,
brief faint talks near end]
WM
COP1: Are you living out of your bag? Where do you live?
EN:
Uh, Manhattan.
WM
COP1: How do you get to school?
[My journal says that WM
COP1 had asked me how I got to school.]
EN:
Uh, bus, train.
LM
COP: Do you have a class schedule with you?
[My journal says that LM COP
was the one who had asked if I had a class schedule.]
EN:
Uh . . .
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Are you (unintel)
EN:
Yeah, yeah.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: How old are you?
EN:
Uh, 49.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: 49?
EN:
Yeah.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
EN:
Myself.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Sorry?
EN:
Myself.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: You live by yourself. (unintel) apartment?
EN:
Yeah.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: House?
ME
(laugh a little): No. Apartment.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
EN:
Nope.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
EN:
(unintel) 355 to 630 p.m., (unintel) Queens College.
[I’m probably reading from
my Queens College class schedule, probably the time of my first class.]
[25m – 25m13s: Faint
UNIDENTIFIED MALE COPS talk to each other, W-T TRANSMISSIONS in background.]
[25m14s – 26m5s: No dialog,
W-T TRANSMISSIONS continue.]
WM
COP1: (unintel)
BM
COP: Look. (unintel)
WM
COP1: He’s got vans. He’s got everything here. Beat cops. (unintel)
[WM COP1 has my video camera and he and BM COP are
looking through the pictures in my video camera a little ways away from me
without my consent and commenting on them. LM COP and WM COP2 may be looking at
them also or they may be standing next to me as WM COP1 and BM COP look through
the pictures. The NYPD also has police vans and officers on foot patrol that I
take pictures of as I come across them or they come across me as I go about my
normal routines. I don’t recall at what point they took my camera from me,
though I appeared to have it a few minutes before when I believe WM COP2 was
asking me what was in my fanny pack and I said my camera.]
BM COP: (unintel)
WM
COP1: Cops.
BM
COP: (unintel)
WM
COP1: Where are they going in here? Do you see (unintel)
BM
COP: Uh, looks like (unintel)
WM
COP1: Subway. That’s the subway. Did you take a picture of cops in the subway?
EN:
They’re (unintel) there.
WM
COP1: Of course they’re there. They work there.
EN:
They could fo-, they could be surveilling me also.
WM
COP1: Dude, they’re facing the other way. And they don’t even know you’re
there.
EN:
How do you know that? (FN16)
BM COP: (unintel)
WM
COP1: Dude, you’re filming “precincts” (?) ?
BM
OR LM COP: (unintel)
WM
COP2: (unintel) there.
EN:
“I don’t have to answer” (?) your questions. I don’t even know what you’re
looking at there.
[They’re looking though my video camera several feet away
from me, so I can’t see the pictures they’re looking at. My journal says that
LM COP told me not to come over or go over when I tried to go over to see what
pictures they were referring to after WM COP1 had said I had taken a picture of
a cop in a subway. Though in reviewing the audio recording, I may have tried to
go over after WM COP1 had said I had taken pictures of precincts or something
similar-sounding. I also looked through all the pictures on the memory card in
question, twice, and did not see any pictures of police precinct buildings, if
that’s what WM COP1 was saying, so WM COP1 may have caught me off guard when he
suddenly may have said I had taken pictures of precincts. I had taken pictures
of precincts in the past, however, as I had of many other police-related things
since they’d become such a big part of my life.]
WM
COP1: I’m telling you, I know you’re filming “precincts” (?). I’m looking at
“precincts” (?), dude.
LM
COP or WM COP2: No guns on you? Weapons? Explosive devices?
[My journal says that LM COP was the one who had asked if
I had any guns, weapons or explosives, but it kind of sounds like WM COP2 in
the audio recording.]
EN:
(1-syllable, unintel)
[I believe that I indicated that I did not have any such
weapons. It seems that if I had answered yes or given an ambiguous answer,
there would be further questions or indications along this line, but there are
not. In addition, LM COP or WM COP2 had asked this question after WM COP1
started talking about what sounded like pictures of “precincts.” They had not
ask me this question with any suggestion that they had seen a weapon or
something that could have been a weapon.]
[27m0s – 27m8s – No dialog]
WM
COP1: Where are you from originally? What’s your nationality?
EN:
Uh, America. Born here.
WM
COP1: (unintel) Of your Asian nationality. What are you? What’s your (unintel).
EN:
Japan.
WM
COP1: Japanese? (unintel) You, you born here though?
EN:
Yeah.
WM
COP1: You ever been to Japan? You . . .
EN:
No.
WM
COP1: . . . ever been to Korea?
EN:
No.
WM
COP1: Never?
EN:
No.
WM
COP1: Nowhere? You never been to Asia at all? Any of the islands in Asia? Any
countries in Asia?
EN:
No.
WM
COP1: Why don’t you look at me when you, when you answer me? Why don’t, why
don’t you look at me when you answer me?
EN:
I don’t know.
[I’m probably somewhat disgusted with him at this point
and am tired of all his questions and innuendos.]
WM
COP1: You’re looking up like this every time I see you. You got a . . . What’s
that?
EN:
Nothing.
[I’m not sure what he
referred to here.]
WM
COP1: You’re not on any medications?
EN:
No.
WM
COP1: No? Listen here, my friend,
[He starts to say an
unintelligible word or two, then stops.]
[27m52s - 27m59s – No
dialog. Periodic W-T TRANSMISSIONS still.]
WM
COP1: (unintel) nothing on him, right? “Whole bag of” (?) (unintel)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE COP: Yeah.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: You need a DOB?
[28m16s – 28m28s – no
dialog]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Birthday’s what? August twenty . . .
EN:
Six.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Fifty-seven. 8/26/57.
[28m34s – 28m52s: No dialog,
though one of the MALE COPS may have yawned.]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: You have a driver’s license, ever?
EN:
Yeah.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: You have one now?
EN:
No. Expired.
[UNIDENTIFIED MALE COPS talk
to each other.]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: No.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel) “They didn’t stay there. Who cares though.” (?)
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
[29m34s – 30m45s: No dialog. Maybe one COP yawns. Faint
W-T TRANSMISSIONS continue in background periodically.]
WM
COP2: So what else do you film?
EN:
(unintel) Everything. People who I think that are surveilling me and like that.
WM
COP2: Why do you think people are surveilling you? What are you doing wrong
that they would be surveilling you?
EN:
Nothing. But Scientology thing like I told you about before.
[31m] (FN17)
WM
COP2: Scientology thing.
EN:
Yeah.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Like what?
EN:
Uh, I used to live across the street from them. They, I got on their bad side
or something. They started harassing me, surveilling me. I tried to get away
from them, but I couldn’t do it, so. Ever since then, people have been
following me around, constantly following me around, surveilling me and like that,
so I started taking pictures and like that. (unintel) (FN18)
LM
COP: What?
EN:
I didn’t do anything wrong.
LM
COP: You took pictures.
EN:
(unintel) It’s not illegal, is it?
LM
COP: It’s not normal.
EN: It’s not illegal though.
LM
COP: It’s not normal.
[My journal says that I had asked LM COP if taking
pictures of cops or writing about it in my journal was illegal and that he had
said no, but that it was wrong or strange, so I believe that it was LM COP who
is saying that taking pictures is not normal here. And since LM COP would not
say that my taking pictures of people who I believe may be following me around
is illegal after I twice asked him if it was illegal, I believe that he does
not believe that it is illegal either, only that it is not normal. If he had
believed it was illegal he probably would have said it was illegal, but he
didn’t. People who I believe may be following me around would include the
police also.]
EN:
That’s what you do. You “write stuff down” (?), right?
LM
COP: It’s my job.
EN:
“Well.” (?)
[If the police make a written record about people who
follow other people around, if that’s what I asked him, why was it not OK or
not normal for me to make a photographic record of something similar,
especially since I was the one being followed around? (FN19)]
[31m50s – 31m55s: No dialog]
BM
COP: Chilly.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: A little chilly out, uh.
[32m0s - 32m18s: No dialog,
maybe one brief noise by an UNIDENTIFIED MALE.]
BM
COP: (unintel)
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Hm?
BM
COP: (unintel)
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel) “getting into a Corvette” (?)
BM
COP: (unintel)
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: I’ve (unintel) twenty-four (unintel), “I haven’t had the chance to”
(?) (unintel – laughs)
BM
COP: Yeah.
[BM COP and UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP laugh.]
BM
COP: Mommy and daddy were telling you the truth.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Holy shit.
[Periodic W-T TRANSMISSIONS
coming over w-t still.]
W-T
FEMALE: (unintel)
W-T
MALE: Uh, everything’s ok. Uh, the situation’s (unintel)
W-T
FEMALE: Ten-four. Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: That was it? (laughs) Unreal.
BM
COP: Wish I could afford (unintel) like that”
[33m]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel) “cop’s pay” (?) and I can’t afford a friggin “Conver” (?)
Corvette.
[BM COP laughs. Maybe they
saw a Corvette car drive by on Main Street.]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Do you work?
EN:
No.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: How do you pay for school?
EN:
Student loans.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: And what do you get with, what degree are you going to be in?
EN:
Library science.
[33m17s: Loud near-sounding
SIREN starts abruptly.]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Are you going to be a librarian?
EN:
Mm, yeah.
[33m34s: Still loud
near-sounding siren stops abruptly.]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Why do you think you’re being followed?
EN:
Well (unintel) trouble with Scientology before.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: What do you mean?
EN:
Uh, (1-syllable, unintel) living across the street from them.
[33m45s: Faint SIREN, one FIRETRUCK-LIKE HORN. It quickly
gets louder like getting nearer, then passing us.]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: What was that?
EN:
I used to live across the street from them.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Scientologists?
EN:
Got on their bad side or something. They started bothering me after that and
then people have been bothering me ever since.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: But why do you think the police would be followed you if you were,
you know, with Scientologists?
[34m]
EN:
Oh, that’s a good question. I (unintel) some crimes also. (unintel) plane
crashes (unintel). (FN20)
[Continuing SIREN from 33m45s gets very loud when it
sounds like it’s passing right by us. SIREN starts winding down fairly soon
after it passes, ending at 34m11s.]
WM
COP2: (unintel) noises. Why is it so loud? It’s so loud here, right?
[I seem to remember that WM
COP2 was the one who had commented on the loud siren.]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
EN:
(unintel) ’92. ’91, ’92 and uh, I don’t know the exact (unintel)
WM
COP2: You reported that in ’92?
EN:
Yeah.
WM
COP2: A plane crash.
EN:
Yeah.
WM
COP2: Which plane crash? Here?
EN:
Yeah. (brief, unintel) LaGuardia one. The one with the big airliners (brief,
unintel).
WM
COP2: What does that have to do with you? (unintel) a crash.
EN:
Yeah. (brief, unintel) some things I did. They, uh, like they’re doing it now,
in response to, so I reported it and like that.
WM
COP2: Some things you did?
EN:
Not that I did.
WM
COP2: Oh. (laughs)
EN:
Like when I, when I complained to people. Like when I (unintel) to the police.
You know, things like that would happen.
[I probably could have done a better job of explaining my
theory and situation which is fairly involved and probably sounds unusual to
people who don’t have experience in that sort of thing. I was probably
referring to the 1992 crash of US Air flight 405 at LaGuardia Airport. That
would have been a good example to give since it involved a violent event, the
police and Scientology. But since it had happened so long ago I apparently
couldn’t recall the details at the time. (FN21)]
[34m56s: Brief, faint siren
starts]
EN
(continued): So. (brief unintel) Scientologist (unintel) Scientologist (brief,
unintel)
[35m4s: SIREN sound ends, always faint. Sounded like
passed by, though not necessarily on Main Street.]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
EN:
I don’t know the reason that (unintel) on my part.
WM
COP2: Have you ever been to a hospital? You know, to talk to somebody about
this? (unintel) the doctor?
EN:
Uh, no.
WM
COP2: Have you ever taken any psychological medication?
EN:
Uh, no.
WM
COP2: Do you think you should?
EN:
No.
WM
COP2: Do you think this is normal though?
EN:
Not what’s happening to me, not normal, but I’m (unintel) as I see it. Like
I’ve said, you know, I’ve done nothing wrong. Writing it down. Taking pictures.
I’ve done nothing wrong here today either. (unintel)
WM
COP2: (unintel) police officers (unintel) take pictures (unintel) following
you? (unintel) one police officer on the street?
[36m]
EN:
(unintel) today. Like I got, get off at my usual stop. Uh, a Department of
Transportation, NYPD truck (unintel) is parked right there. (unintel) behind
(unintel) So it looked suspicious to me, so I took a picture.
WM
COP2: The police use this store right here.
EN:
Yeah. (unintel) I just walk down the street and they’re there. They’re there.
So that’s kind of suspicious, right?
WM
COP2: Not particularly suspicious.
EN:
I don’t know (unintel) for sure, (unintel) I don’t harass anybody, you know,
don’t cause a scene outside of taking a picture.
[Though the police use that store, which is a relatively
small store, police vehicles aren’t usually there. If police vehicles were
parked there every time I passed by I wouldn’t necessarily be suspicious of
their having been there that day unless they did something else that I found
suspicious.]
[36m50s – 37m36s: No dialog, continuing periodic W-T
TRANSMISSIONS.]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: What was that?
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel) Probably shouldn’t (unintel) or something.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: I know, uh? “Wild shoes.” (?)
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Yeah.
[38m0s – 38m13s – No dialog]
WM
COP2: You lived in California?
EN:
Yeah.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
EN:
Uh, L.A. Bay Area.
LM
COP or WM COP2: Ever take drugs? No?
EN:
No.
LM
COP or WM COP2: Never, never took any drugs in your life?
EN:
No.
LM
COP or WM COP2: No psychological drugs?
EN:
no.
LM
COP or WM COP2: No LSD? No acid?
EN:
No.
LM
COP or WM COP2: ‘shrooms?
EN:
No.
BM
COP or OTHER COP: What about marijuana? Smoke any marijuana?
EN:
No. Clean.
[My journal says that LM COP had asked me at some point
whether I had ever taken any medication and that I had responded that I was
clean, but from the audio recording, it kind of sounds like this might be WM
COP2 also. I also seem to remember BM COP as the one who had asked me about
marijuana, though not about the other drugs.]
[38m42s - 39m0s – no dialog]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel) to Scientologists?
LM
COP: Tom Cruise might show up.
[My journal says that LM COP
had made the Tom Cruise comment.]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP (laughing): What?
LM
COP: Tom Cruise might show up.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP (laughing): Tom Cruise might show up.
[39m10s – 39m15s – No
dialog]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: In cities like this (unintel) This guy’s (unintel) since “4” (?)
o’clock standing right here (unintel) still parks right here at the hydrant.
Mercedes right there. See it?
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Straight ahead. See it (unintel)?
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel) deserves a ticket.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel) run out and say I was only here a minute. (unintel, then
laughs)
[39m54s - 40m4s: no dialog.
Brief CAR ALARM-LIKE SOUND in background, CAR SECURITY CHIRP-LIKE SOUNDS came
before this over a 20 second period and a few seconds after.]
UNIDENTIFIED MALE COP: (unintel)
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Yeah. Are they (unintel) us?
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: I think so. (unintel)
W-T
FEMALE: (unintel) “Sixty-eighth” (?) and Main.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP (like talking into w-t): Ten-four.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (brief, unintel)
[40m18s – 40m41s: No dialog]
[40m42s – 40m57s: Faint
UNIDENTIFIED PEOPLE talk in distance, not sure if cops. Brief CAR SECURITY
CHIRP-LIKE SOUNDS.]
[40m58s – 41m21s: Faint,
unintelligible UNIDENTIFIED MALE COPS.]
[41m18s – 42m29s: W-T MALE
& FEMALE in background. Starts faint, gets louder. At one point, W-T MALE
says “Charlie-Henry-Adam-Peter-Ida-Nora,” perhaps a location called “Chapin”
since W-T FEMALE had said “location” before. Ends w/ W-T FEMALE saying, “Stand
by one.” They say some numbers and maybe some other little things, too.]
[42m15s – 43m14s: SIREN starts during W-T TRANSMISSIONS.
Starts faint, then gets louder like getting nearer, then stops abruptly.]
[43m10s – 43m50s: Faint W-T
TRANSMISSIONS starts again a little before SIREN stops abruptly. At one point,
it sounds like W-T FEMALE says “injury on Queens Blvd and Jamaica Avenue.”
Maybe faint brief unintelligible UNIDENTIFIED MALE COPS also at one point.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE COP says, “I know” at one point. Then brief faint SIREN after
W-T TRANSMISSIONS end.]
[44m8s]
WM
COP2: (unintel) right now, not normal. You might . . .
EN:
(1-syllable, unintel)
WM
COP2: . . . think it is, but it’s not normal. You, you’re going to have, you’re
going to take a ride with these guys and you have to speak to a doctor.
EN:
What if I refuse?
WM
COP2: You, you got to understand. Y’, y’, this is not normal.
EN:
What if I refuse? (1-syllable, unintel)
[A Latin-looking female
EMT-like (LF EMT) and a white-looking male EMT-like (WM EMT) had exited an FDNY
ambulance that had pulled up and parked behind the two NYPD police cars parked
on the northbound side of Main Street near where we were. My journal says that
the identification number on the FDNY ambulance was 148 or 149. They were
standing with me and some or all of the four cops were there also. My journal
also says that I did not remember the race of the male EMT-like, but I now seem
to remember him as looking white, so I’ve given him that identifier.]
WM
EMT: Hello, sir.
LF
EMT: Hi.
EN:
Hi.
WM
EMT: What’s going on?
EN:
Nothing. They’re just, they seem to say I’ve done something wrong, but I don’t
feel I have.
LF
EMT: What were you doing?
EN: Oh, took their picture, writing stuff down.
LF
EMT: Taking pictures of what?
EN:
Uh, the cops.
[I believe I had only taken pictures of police cars at
this time as I said before, not the cops themselves.]
LF
EMT: The cops?
EN:
Yeah. They were here when I got here.
WM
EMT: Why are you taking pictures of the cops?
EN:
Oh, I don’t know. “I’d rather not do it.” (?) Am I under arrest?
[I could see how the EMT-likes might take my conspiracy
theory and turn it into my having a possible mental illness and then use that
to try and lock me away in a mental institution, so I didn’t want to get into
that.]
WM
COP2: They’re asking you questions.
EN:
Am I under arrest?
WM
COP2: They’re asking you questions.
EN:
What if I go right now? Would I, w-, w-
[I believed that if
I wasn’t under arrest that I should be able to go, but I found out later in my
research that this was not the case. After this encounter, I did some research and found that in New York State, police officers are allowed
to involuntarily detain a person in order to initiate involuntary commitment
proceedings for psychological evaluation under the emergency commitment
category of New York State’s Mental Hygiene Law § 9.41. The admission standard
to initiate such proceedings is “any person who appears to be mentally ill and
is conducting himself or herself in a manner which is likely to result in
serious harm to the person or others.” But I don’t feel the police had a
legitimate reason for initiating these proceedings since they had never
established a basis for the serious harm portion of a § 9.41 admission
standard. The EMT-likes and one of the officers would later bring up the
serious harm standard, but the EMT-likes only asked me questions that attempted
to establish a basis for the harm standard, but I believe they were unable to
establish this basis since I would not answer their questions. And the officer
seemed to base his belief that I was a danger to myself or others on the belief
that things I had said or done were not “normal,” but he had not established
how my doing or saying things that he considered to be not “normal” meant that
I was a danger to myself or others. (FN22)]
[45m]
LF
EMT: Let me ask you a question. What medical issues do you have?
EN:
What if I left right now? What would happen?
WM
EMT: What kind of medicines did you have (unintel) danger to yourself and
others?
[I believe WM EMT is
attempting to establish the harm standard here. Or perhaps attempting to
disprove the harm standard if I had said I wasn’t taking any such medicines.
But if I answered this question, it could have led back to the previous
question about why I had taken pictures of the police vehicles which could have
possibly led to their concluding that I had a mental illness and all the other
things that that could lead to, legitimately or otherwise.]
WM
COP2: (unintel) We want to make sure you’re OK.
EN:
Am I under, what, what if I left? Am I, uh, what would happen?
WM
COP2: Answer their questions.
EN:
(unintel) answer (unintel)
LF
EMT: Well, let me ask you this question. What (intel) issue do you have?
EN:
What if I left right now, what would happen?
LF
EMT: Well, right now you can’t leave because we need to ask you questions.
EN:
Am I under arrest?
LF
EMT: Well, right now that’s not, we’re, we’re not worried about that. We’re
just worried about you right now. What medical pro-, history or problems you
have.
EN:
(unintel) leave right now.
LF
EMT: No, right now you can’t leave.
EN:
(unintel)
WM
COP2: Answer their questions, then we’ll discuss that afterwards in a minute,
OK?
EN:
I, I -
WM
EMT: What kind of (unintel) are you taking?
EN:
I’d like to speak to an attorney.
WM
EMT: What medi-, do you take any medications?
EN:
I’d like to speak to an attorney.
LF
EMT: Well, this, we’re asking you medical questions. We, we’re not even with
the cops. We just want to know your medical history.
EN:
Uh, I have nothing to say. I’d like to speak to an attorney.
[46m – 46m5s: No dialog,
faint W-T TRANSMISSIONS in back.]
WM
COP2: (unintel) Scientology?
EN:
I have nothing “else” (?) to say.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Understand if you don’t answer the questions (unintel) we’re going to
have to (unintel) so it would be best just to answer the questions.
EN:
What if I left right now?
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: You can’t leave.
EN:
Why not? Am I under arrest?
LM
COP or WM COP2: Sir, you have to understand something. Not everybody we detain
is under arrest. If we feel you’re a danger to yourself and others, we can take
you to a hospital (unintel) arrested and have you psychologically evaluated and
your behavior today is not normal.
[So here is what appears to be a basic summary of New
York State’s Mental Hygiene Law § 9.41 by LM COP or WM COP2. Though he does not
mention possible involuntary commitment, the purpose of the psychological
evaluation is to determine whether or not the person should be involuntarily
committed in a mental institution, so I believe that when the police or
EMT-likes were trying to establish the serious harm standard, they were doing
so for the ultimate purpose of a possible involuntary commitment or at least a
formal diagnosis of mental illness.
My journal says that LM COP had
said at one point that they thought I was a danger to myself and others and
wanted to take me to the hospital, but from the audio recording it also sounds
like it might be WM COP2 who is saying this, so I have indicated them both as
the possible speaker.]
LF
EMT (crosstalk): That’s what I’m trying to determine right now.
[So LF EMT also seems to be
aware of § 9.41.]
WM
COP2 (crosstalk): So answer the questions.
LF
EMT (crosstalk): Right now you’re not under arrest.
EN
(crosstalk): No, I’d like, I’d like, I’d like to speak to an attorney.
LF
EMT: But if you don’t answer our questions, we’re going to have to take you
over to a hospital. It’s not being under arrest.
EN:
I have nothing to say.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
EN:
I’m not going to . . .
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel)
EN:
I’m not going to talk to any of you. I’d like to speak to an attorney. I feel
like my rights are being violated here. (FN23)
[47m]
WM
COP2: Understand (unintel)
EN:
All right, then let me talk to an attorney then.
WM
COP2: (unintel) rights (unintel) we just want to make sure you’re not danger to
yourself or others.
EN:
OK, I’d like to speak to the attorney then.
[Faint UNIDENTIFIED MALE COPS in back, unintelligible.
Continuing periodic W-T TRANSMISSIONS.]
LF
EMT: OK.
WM
COP1: Eric,
[Person coughs in back,
maybe LF EMT.]
WM
COP1: (brief unintel) to figure out your problem of we, we, we think might be
prevailing here and stuff like that, right? Right? Like we said before. If you
want, we can offer you an option. You can go up to the detectives in our
command and they would figure out how to get, get them to knock it off, if
that’s what you think is going on. You want to go talk to them?
[This sounds like it might have been a decent offer to
have made sometime after I told them I felt cops were following me around, but
at this point I didn’t really trust them and felt it would be better to just be
away from them and anyone else they were connected to. Also, if WM COP1 was
sincere in this statement and the other officers were in agreement to a greater
or lesser degree, it seems strange to me, to say the least, that they would
have put forth the argument that I was a danger to myself or others and used
that as a pretext to involuntarily detain me and try and coerce me into being
psychologically evaluated and possibly involuntarily committed in a mental
institution. (FN24)]
EN:
I’d like to speak to an attorney.
WM
COP1: You’re not under arrest or anything.
EN:
Well.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: No, I’m just. No, no this is to help you. You think you’re being
watched. (brief, unintel) Maybe the detectives can figure out and they can get
these guys to knock it off, if that’s what you want them to do.
[48m]
EN:
Um, I’d like to speak to an attorney or I’d like to leave on, under my own.
WM
COP1: Under your own what?
EN:
Under my own whatever. If I’m not under arrest, can I go or what?
UNIDENTIFIED
PERSON: (1-2 syllable unintel)
WM
COP2: You want, you want to go to a hospital and speak to a psychiatrist about
what’s going on?
EN:
Oh, no thank you.
WM
COP2: Speak to one of the doctors?
EN:
No.
WM
COP2: Sure?
EN:
Sure.
WM
COP2: You think you might hurt yourself or anything?
EN:
No.
WM
COP2: You want to hurt yourself?
EN:
No.
WM
COP2: You hearing any voices?
[Someone laughs, maybe me. UNIDENTIFIED MALE COP and
maybe LF EMT laugh also. In a previous 38-page letter that I’d posted on my
website I had said that I had heard voices sometimes, especially in Los
Angeles, so they or someone else may have read my letter as I was being
detained or had a general file on me, though I had not told them about my
letter. I have not heard any voices since perhaps staying in a shelter in the early 1990s.]
LF
EMT: (unintel)
WM
COP1: (unintel) That’s the one that makes me laugh, too.
EN:
No, I (unintel). I’d like my stuff back (unintel).
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Pick your stuff up.
EN:
(unintel) another notebook also.
WM
COP1: No, I took one notebook. I don’t have any other notebook.
EN:
(1-syllable, unintel).
WM
COP1: I don’t have any other notebook.
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: (unintel) didn’t take anything out of your bag.
WM
COP1: No, we didn’t take anything out of your bag. I only had the one notebook.
(unintel).
EN:
No, this is (unintel) the bag. (unintel)
WM
COP1: No, no, that’s when you had, you wrote my thing down. That’s what you had
in your hand when I walked up. Remember?
[49m]
EN:
Oh. OK. But then I took another one out of my bag to show him (unintel).
[From when LM COP had asked
to see one of my old journals after he asked me to open my wheelbag.]
WM
COP2: (unintel) put it right back.
LF
EMT: You want to check your bag? (unintel).
WM
COP1: You want to check your bag before we go?
LF
EMT: Check your bag.
WM
COP1: To make sure (unintel) We didn’t take anything.
[49m15s - 49m39s: BAG-CHECKING-LIKE NOISES, then a ZIPPER
NOISE, then more BAG-CHECKING-LIKE NOISES.]
UNIDENTIFIED
MALE COP: Is it in there?
EN:
I’m not sure.
[49m42s - 50m11s: Continuing BAG-CHECKING-LIKE NOISES.
Faint, unintelligible UNIDENTIFIED MALE COP voices in back like they’re talking
to each near the end and the periodic W-T TRANSMISSIONS still. I have so many
things in my bag that it’s hard to tell if anything’s missing. I checked my
journals later though and they all seemed to be there.]
EN:
Oh, wait a minute. Can I take your pictures so I can have a record of this?
LF
EMT: No.
EN:
No. (1-syllable, unintel)
[50m19s - 50m21s: Faint,
brief UNIDENTIFIED MALE COP-LIKES talk in background, then no dialog or W-T
TRANSMISSIONS. The cops and EMT-likes are returning to their vehicles at this
point, I believe.
This missed photo
opportunity shows one of the values of photography. I was too intimidated by
the experience to take pictures of them on my own like I usually may have done.
If you have to ask permission, there’s a good chance they’re going to decline
like the LF EMT, especially if they’ve been engaged in questionable behavior.
So I lost the opportunity to have a photographic record of the people who were
instrumental in the traumatic, possibly illegal, occurrences of that day which
may also have connections to the killings at Virginia Tech that happened about
a month and a half later. (See my Virginia Tech Conspiracy Theory blog posting
for more details.) Though at least I still have the audio recording, my journal
writings, my memories of those events, some pictures and a video of the traffic
enforcement car and one or two of the initial NYPD police cars. I do have a
blurry distant image of a police officer(s) in the northbound police car in the
video as it drove past and another blurry distant image an officer in the same
car from a picture I took after the car made a U-turn at Melbourne Ave. (FN25)
WM COP1 also had made
photocopies of my journal which I should have asked them to return to me, but
had probably forgotten about them while the cops were still there and I didn’t
want to go to their precinct afterward to ask for them in case they tried to
detain me or have me psychologically evaluated again.]
[50m22s – 50m54s: BAG-CHECKING-LIKE or RETURNING ITEMS TO
BAG NOISES. Brief CAR HORN-LIKE HONKING.]
[50m55s – 50m57s: Loud,
brief, near-sounding SIREN. Maybe it was one of the two police cars or the FDNY
ambulance leaving. Faint, brief, unintelligible, UNIDENTIFIED PERSON in
background after siren.]
[51m5s: Faint, brief, distant-sounding,
unintelligible UNIDENTIFIED PERSON in background. Maybe a kid. I had also
noticed a large group of youngish school kid-looking people standing next to
Melbourne on the north end of the sidewalk that I, the cops and the EMT-likes
were on after the cops and EMT-likes had walked away from me. (FN26)]
[51m23s – 51m28s: Brief,
unintelligible, UNIDENTIFIED PERSON(S) in background. It sounds faint at first,
then louder near the end like they’re passing by.]
[51m38s: Short AIRHORN-LIKE
SOUND. Maybe one of the police cars or the FDNY ambulance leaving. ENGINE-LIKE
SOUNDS preceded and followed it.]
[52m40s: Very faint, brief,
distant-sounding, SIREN-LIKE sound.]
[53m9s: Loud, near-sounding, MTA-LIKE BUS AIRBRAKE SOUND.
I believe all the police officers and EMT-likes and their vehicles are gone by
this point. End of transcript of audio recording.
I went to Queens College after
this. Not to class though because I was feeling too traumatized. I went to the
Queens College library instead to write down what had just happened while it
was still relatively fresh in my mind. When I exited the library a couple of
hours later there was a Queens College campus security vehicle parked near the
library exit. And later that evening, when I exited my usual subway station near
my apartment in Manhattan, an NYPD police car (1869) with its lights flashing
was approaching and stopped next to the station. Curiously, its identification
number of 1869 was one number more than WM COP1 & BM COP’s NYPD police
car’s number of 1868. (FN27)]
1) See my 38-page letter posted on my website
for a discussion of my conspiracy-like situation (http://musicalsandconspiracy.com/conspiracy/38_page_letter/reading_2004.htm) or for a brief summary, the beginning of my Virginia Tech Conspiracy Theory posting on my blog. (http://eric-mac.blogspot.com/2016/01/virginia-tech-conspiracy-theory.html)
2) In reviewing my memory card, the pictures and
video from that day showed that I first tried to take a video of the parked
traffic enforcement car and the police car that I believe was parked several
cars behind it, but by the time the video started recording, only the traffic
enforcement car is shown to be parked. In the video, there is a police car
driving north on Main Street. It soon passes the traffic enforcement car and
me. Then the northbound police car appears to stop at Melbourne Avenue and the
video ends.
At the very beginning of the video, the police car is perhaps seen driving at an angle and into its subsequent lane. This is perhaps an indication that it entered its lane some somewhere around the area behind the parked cars where it may have been parked, though it’s hard to tell for sure if it had even entered its lane from an angel. If it did, then it may also have just merged into its lane from the lane next to the parked cars.
There also does not appear to be a legal parking space where it could have been parked behind the two cars that were parked behind the traffic enforcement car. But I'm pretty sure that a police car had been parked behind the traffic enforcement car, however, based on my journal entry, my memory of that day and from WM COP1 later saying that he had entered the nearby police equipment store to see if they had any earplugs. The memory card containing the video and pictures indicates that the video was taken at 3:40 p.m. on that day.
At the very beginning of the video, the police car is perhaps seen driving at an angle and into its subsequent lane. This is perhaps an indication that it entered its lane some somewhere around the area behind the parked cars where it may have been parked, though it’s hard to tell for sure if it had even entered its lane from an angel. If it did, then it may also have just merged into its lane from the lane next to the parked cars.
There also does not appear to be a legal parking space where it could have been parked behind the two cars that were parked behind the traffic enforcement car. But I'm pretty sure that a police car had been parked behind the traffic enforcement car, however, based on my journal entry, my memory of that day and from WM COP1 later saying that he had entered the nearby police equipment store to see if they had any earplugs. The memory card containing the video and pictures indicates that the video was taken at 3:40 p.m. on that day.
I
then had taken two pictures of the northbound police car as it made a U-turn at
Melbourne Avenue and started driving south on Main Street with a time
indication of 3:40 p.m. on the memory card. The police car’s identification
number might have been 1868, the same identification number as WM COP1 and BM
COP’s police car that soon parked near me just south of Melbourne Avenue, but
the number is fuzzy and it’s hard to tell for sure. But if they were the same
number, then they were the same police cars.
The next picture is of the parked traffic
enforcement car, taken from the front, north side of the car with a time
indication of 3:41 p.m. A police car can be seen in the background on the
southbound side of Main Street. It may be waiting to make a U-turn to the northbound
side of Main Street since I believe there is an opening between the two sides
where it is located. Or it could also just be driving south.
I
then took 3 pictures of the traffic enforcement car from the back, south side
of the car, probably to get a picture of its identification number on its back
license plate since a parked car had been blocking its front license plate when
I had taken the picture from the front, north side. The memory card indicates
that all 3 pictures were taken at 3:41 p.m. In
the background of 2 of the 3 pictures, a northbound Budget truck can be seen.
Budget is the name of a company that rents out trucks to people and businesses
who need a truck to move, haul or make deliveries. I sometimes associate the
sighting of such Budget trucks as an attempt by my stalkers to tell me to
budget my spending, especially after I’ve purchased a pricier item. I’m not
sure of the significance of this particular Budget truck, however, since I had
not been shopping that day.
Then there are 4 picture of an NYPD police car (1868) parked on the
northbound side of Main Street just south of Melbourne Avenue from which WM
COP1 and BM COP would later exit. All 4 of these pictures have a time
indication of 3:42 p.m.
I’ve posted the above video on my Vimeo channel ("NYPD Traffic Enforcement and Police Cars" at https://vimeo.com/150431114) and most of the above pictures on my blog ("Photos referred to in my "Transcript and commentary of 'Audio Recording of March 1, 2007 Eric Nakao-NYPD-FDNY Encounter'" blog posting at http://eric-mac.blogspot.com/2016/01/blog-post_1.html and/or my "Virginia Tech Conspiracy Theory" blog posting at http://eric-mac.blogspot.com/2016/01/virginia-tech-conspiracy-theory.html).
I’ve posted the above video on my Vimeo channel ("NYPD Traffic Enforcement and Police Cars" at https://vimeo.com/150431114) and most of the above pictures on my blog ("Photos referred to in my "Transcript and commentary of 'Audio Recording of March 1, 2007 Eric Nakao-NYPD-FDNY Encounter'" blog posting at http://eric-mac.blogspot.com/2016/01/blog-post_1.html and/or my "Virginia Tech Conspiracy Theory" blog posting at http://eric-mac.blogspot.com/2016/01/virginia-tech-conspiracy-theory.html).
3) I believe that BM COP may also have
physically resembled several black males who had interacted with me before or
since the March 1, 2007 encounter. One was a plainclothes security person at
the Broadway and 75th Street Fairway supermarket in Manhattan who
with a white male partner had accused me of shoplifting because I had exited
the store with grocery items that were not in Fairway grocery bags. I had just
bought the items and taken them out of the Fairway bags and put them in my own
personal bags in an area next to the cashiers to make them easier to carry as I
had often done in the past.
Another possible look-alike was a black male who was apparently with
the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development or the New York
City Housing Authority who said he and a white female partner were there to
check for lead content in my public housing apartment. I had cut my finger
previously and dripped blood on the floor of my apartment and next to the
garbage chute in the hallway. I left the blood there for awhile, but then
decided to clean it off in case someone tried to use it to get a blood sample
of me.
After I cleaned blood off the floor, I got the visit from the people saying they were there to check for lead. The black male took a swab-like sample from several areas in my apartment, including the area near my front door where some of the blood had dripped. I sometimes wondered if he had taken the swab-like from my front door area in order to try and get my blood sample, though I had tried to clean it previously as I said before. Or maybe he was showing me by this action that he or someone else had already gotten my blood sample. Or perhaps he or someone wanted to show me that they knew what I was thinking in terms of blood samples in having tried to clean up the blood previously by performing an action that seems like it would be similar to taking a blood sample.
After I cleaned blood off the floor, I got the visit from the people saying they were there to check for lead. The black male took a swab-like sample from several areas in my apartment, including the area near my front door where some of the blood had dripped. I sometimes wondered if he had taken the swab-like from my front door area in order to try and get my blood sample, though I had tried to clean it previously as I said before. Or maybe he was showing me by this action that he or someone else had already gotten my blood sample. Or perhaps he or someone wanted to show me that they knew what I was thinking in terms of blood samples in having tried to clean up the blood previously by performing an action that seems like it would be similar to taking a blood sample.
4) I did not tell WM COP1 that I had written down the
movements of police vehicles in my journal only that I wrote down my daily
activities, so I don’t see why he immediately accused me of writing down the
movements of police vehicles. I do actually often write down the movements of
police vehicles that I come across as I go about my daily activities, but I
don’t see why he would assume this. I had taken pictures of the back of his
parked police car just below Melbourne Avenue while he was still in the car,
however. I had also previously taken a video and pictures of the police car that
I believe had been parked behind the parked traffic enforcement car as it drove
past me and made a U-turn on Melbourne Avenue.
If the police car that drove past me was WM COP1 and BM COP’s car and one or both of them saw me take these pictures and video and then they saw me take pictures of their police car that was later parked just south of Melbourne Avenue, then this could be an indication of my taking pictures and video of the movements of police vehicles, though not of writing down their movements in my journal. And I don’t believe that I had written down their movements in my journal at the time of our encounter since there is no description of his or the traffic enforcement car in the parts of my journal that he had me read to him. I believe I had only written down the identification numbers of the police and traffic enforcement cars at the bottom of the current page in my journal by the time of our encounter since WM COP1 refers to them at one point.
If the police car that drove past me was WM COP1 and BM COP’s car and one or both of them saw me take these pictures and video and then they saw me take pictures of their police car that was later parked just south of Melbourne Avenue, then this could be an indication of my taking pictures and video of the movements of police vehicles, though not of writing down their movements in my journal. And I don’t believe that I had written down their movements in my journal at the time of our encounter since there is no description of his or the traffic enforcement car in the parts of my journal that he had me read to him. I believe I had only written down the identification numbers of the police and traffic enforcement cars at the bottom of the current page in my journal by the time of our encounter since WM COP1 refers to them at one point.
I also don’t see why WM COP1 would be so automatically hostile about
this writing down. Though I was suspicious of seeing these police vehicles
which may be a cause for hostility on the part of an overly sensitive police
officer, I had not told WM COP1 about my suspicions at this point. I was also not
especially near him when I was writing in my journal or taking the pictures and
video, but seemed to be standing next to the wall of the nearby building on a
sidewalk of average width since he tells me to put my hands up against the wall
of the nearby building and also from the angle of the photographs, especially
one photograph showing both police car 1868 and the nearby building where one
can tell that I was near the building. So my physical distance would seem to
call for even less hostility on his part.
His hostility may be an indication of prior knowledge on his or someone else’s part of my having a history of taking pictures and videos of the police and their vehicles which might make for a more plausible reason for a hostile reaction rather than the reaction to just seeing a random person taking pictures and video of a random police car from a distance in the middle of the day in a middle class residential-commercial area for the first time. Or he may just have a generally hostile personality. Or maybe he’d had a bad day and decided to take it out on me. But I believe that his hostility came from prior knowledge on his or someone else’s part as I’ve said before.
His hostility may be an indication of prior knowledge on his or someone else’s part of my having a history of taking pictures and videos of the police and their vehicles which might make for a more plausible reason for a hostile reaction rather than the reaction to just seeing a random person taking pictures and video of a random police car from a distance in the middle of the day in a middle class residential-commercial area for the first time. Or he may just have a generally hostile personality. Or maybe he’d had a bad day and decided to take it out on me. But I believe that his hostility came from prior knowledge on his or someone else’s part as I’ve said before.
5) Since I had no suspicious bulges in my
jacket pockets or I believe anything at all and I had not pulled anything out
of my pockets, I feel there was no legal justification for WM COP1 having me
put my hands against the wall and frisking me. And since I was acting in a
non-belligerent manner and since WM COP1 would later say was that the only alleged
crime I had committed was the non-violent alleged crime of taking pictures or
video of police and traffic enforcement vehicles, I feel that frisking me for a
weapon of violence was even less justified. See my Virginia Tech Conspiracy Theory blog posting for a further
discussion on the legality of frisking me. (http://eric-mac.blogspot.com/2016/01/virginia-tech-conspiracy-theory.html).
6) See my Virginia Tech Conspiracy Theory blog
posting for a further discussion on the legality of taking and reading my
journal. (http://eric-mac.blogspot.com/2016/01/virginia-tech-conspiracy-theory.html).
7) My journal also says that fire truck #76
was parked along Amsterdam Avenue next to the back of my apartment building in
Manhattan when I had exited on that day before my subsequent police-EMT-like
encounter in Queens, though I did not take any pictures for some reason.
It also says that a person in a wheelchair was at the bus stop near Queens Borough Hall after I had exited the Kew Gardens/Union Turnpike subway in Queens. I feel that my stalkers might sometimes have people with physical disabilities come within my sight, perhaps to signify my disabled state or something. I was able to get some pictures of this person which I’ve posted on my blog. This is the bus stop where I would usually wait to to then take 1 or 2 buses that would take me to Main St. and Melbourne Ave. bus stop. There was also a car parked near the Queens Borough Hall bus bench when I arrived which looked a little suspicious also since I believe there usually weren’t many cars parked near, though there sometimes were. I got some pictures of this car also which I’ve posted on my blog.
It also says that a person in a wheelchair was at the bus stop near Queens Borough Hall after I had exited the Kew Gardens/Union Turnpike subway in Queens. I feel that my stalkers might sometimes have people with physical disabilities come within my sight, perhaps to signify my disabled state or something. I was able to get some pictures of this person which I’ve posted on my blog. This is the bus stop where I would usually wait to to then take 1 or 2 buses that would take me to Main St. and Melbourne Ave. bus stop. There was also a car parked near the Queens Borough Hall bus bench when I arrived which looked a little suspicious also since I believe there usually weren’t many cars parked near, though there sometimes were. I got some pictures of this car also which I’ve posted on my blog.
8) The Department of Transportation may have
similar-looking traffic enforcement vehicles as well. In fact, I referred to it
as a DOT vehicle in my journal, though in reviewing my pictures from that day,
I could see that it was an NYPD vehicle, not a D.O.T. vehicle. I could also see
from the picture that it was a standard utility vehicle (SUV)-type car, not a
truck, as WM COP1 had said and as I also refer to it later when the EMTs were
questioning me.
9) See my Virginia Tech Conspiracy Theory blog
posting for a further discussion on the legality of taking pictures of the
police in a public setting. (http://eric-mac.blogspot.com/2016/01/virginia-tech-conspiracy-theory.html).
10) I also found a picture of just grayish
color from around this time with a time indication of 3:46 p.m. on the memory
card from that day. I may have tried to take a picture of the cops when they
had taken my money in order to have a record of this, but am not sure. I have
no memory of having taken any pictures at this point and there is nothing
written about it in my journal either.
11) My theory and situation had their
beginnings over fifteen years previously at the time of the encounter, so this
may have added to my somewhat scattered attempt. In retrospect, I probably
should have mentioned my complaining about the police in the past. It may have
provided a more immediately apparent possible explanation for the police
following me around since some of them may have been putting me under
surveillance in retaliation for complaining about them in the past.
12) I noticed a video from around this time with
a time indication of 3:48 p.m on the memory card from that day. It’s a video of
erratic shots of the sidewalk mostly. Walkie-talkie transmission-likes can be
heard in the background. I can also be heard faintly mentioning Scientology and
WM COP1 can be heard talking about being upset about my filming them. This is
the same bit of dialog that can also be heard at one point in the audio
recording. So since the same dialog can be heard in both the audio recording
(which has no time and date indication) and the video (which does have a time
and date indication), this should show that the audio recording had indeed
taken place on March 1, 2007 around 3:48 p.m. as I’ve assumed since the same
dialog has been recorded on the video which shows that that time and date was
the time and date that that bit of dialog had been recorded. There’s no video
of WM COP1 or BM COP, however. I also don’t recall having taken this video and
there’s also no mention of this video in my journal, but apparently I took my
video camera out of my fanny pack at some point and tried to take some video.
13) I didn’t see any pictures or videos of WM
COP1 outside of his car when I reviewed the pictures and video that I took from
that day either. There is also no mention in my journal of cops outside of
their police car when I had exited the bus, only of parked NYPD police and
traffic enforcement vehicles and an NYPD police car pulling up near me later.
My journal says that I only took pictures and/or video of vehicles, not of
police officers There may be one or two fuzzy images of WM COP1 and/or BM COP
inside their car as they drove past, however, assuming that the northbound
police car in the video was the same car as WM COP1 and BM COP later exited.
My journal also says that WM COP1 had said something to a black male
traffic enforcement person from the parked traffic enforcement car and that
this may have been done after WM COP1 was finished “yelling at me.” I seem to
remember the traffic enforcement person smiling and waving to WM COP1 from
inside his traffic enforcement car before driving off also, though there is no
mention of this in my journal. This made me feel at the time that maybe they
knew each other and maybe the traffic enforcement person or someone else had
told the cops about my taking pictures of them, then knowing my movements, it
was arranged that the traffic enforcement person and the cops would be waiting
there for me, knowing that I would take their pictures, giving the cops an
excuse to interact with me in the subsequently overly aggressive manner. Or the
cops knew I was taking their pictures before and had set this up on their own.
As I had said before, WM COP1’s immediately assuming that I was writing down
the movements of police vehicles when I had only told him that I write down my
daily activities and the hostile tone he took may also be indications of prior
knowledge on his or someone else’s part. WM COP1 may have gone over to talk to
the traffic enforcement person for some other reason also, but those were my
thoughts at the time and I still feel that they were there waiting for me.
14) My journal also says that WM COP1 or BM COP
had said that the Patriot Act said that people couldn’t take pictures of cops.
WM COP1’s multiple references to 9/11 would seem to suggest that he, at least,
was basing his belief on the Patriot Act since the Patriot Act was passed in
response to 9/11. I subsequently looked through the Patriot Act and could find
no such prohibition. This further supported my belief that taking pictures of
cops or police vehicles in a public setting was not illegal since if the law
they had cited did not contain the prohibition, then it seems likely that this
prohibition did not exist or at least WM COP1 and BM COP’s personal
justification for their belief in this prohibition did not exist. And if this
legal basis for their personal justification did not exist, then I believe they
had no legal justification for frisking me or going through my journal or all
the other things they did since this apparently mistaken prohibition was the
seeming basis for their subsequent official police actions against me.
15) I’d also experimented with earplugs several
years previously to try and not hear my seeming stalkers talking around me when
I was out in public, but I couldn’t find an acceptable pair. I used to cover my
ears with my hands as an alternative for awhile whenever talkers were near, but
then I bought a video camera and audio recorder and started recording what was
going on around me instead of trying to shut it out. So maybe the WM COP1’s
mentioning earplugs was an allusion to that, if the cops have a file on me, or
maybe it was just a coincidence.
16) If someone’s surveilling you, they don’t necessarily
have to be watching you all the time. Sometimes they could just be where they
know you’re going to be to let you know that you’re being watched. It’s also
possible that a cop or cops had been directed to be someplace by someone else
without the directed cops actually knowing about you themselves. But by being
in a particular location where it was known you were going to be, the cops’
presence would serve a similar purpose since it would appear that you were
being surveilled or harassed by the presence of the unwittingly directed cops,
especially if the person doing the directing knew that you had a suspicion that
you were being surveilled by the police.
17) There’s also a short video of just black
around this time with a time indication of 4:10 p.m on the memory card from
that day. I don’t recall taking this video or if the cops had even given me
back my video camera at this point. There’s also no mention of it in my
journal.
18) Though the surveilling seemed to start with
Scientology back in Los Angeles, I couldn’t say that all or most of the people
surveilling me in New York were Scientologists or Scientology connected,
especially since Scientology does not appear to have nearly as large a presence
in New York as it did in the area of Los Angeles I used to live and they don’t
seem to wear the uniforms that many Scientologists wore in the area I used to
live. I kept bringing up Scientology, however, since the cops seemed interested
in the origins of this surveillance activity and I associated its origin with
Scientology, despite whatever else may or may not have happened since its
apparent beginnings. See my 38-page letter (http://musicalsandconspiracy.com/conspiracy/38_page_letter/reading_2004.htm) and
Joseph Yanny letter (http://musicalsandconspiracy.com/conspiracy/38_page_letter/appendix/yanny.htm) posted on my website for
further discussion of my early encounters and theories about the possible
Scientology connection and related matters.
19) See my Virginia Tech Conspiracy Theory blog
posting for a further discussion on the normality of taking pictures of people
who you believe are following you around. Plus, “following me around” does not
mean that only one person was physically following me around in a continuous
manner, but following around in terms of a group following me around in terms
of knowing my movements, reporting these movements to each other or others and
any other coordinated activities that such a group might do in a
surveillance-harassment-type situation.
20) Scientology also appears to have some
connections to various local police departments. (See my Virginia Tech
Conspiracy Theory posting for a further discussion of this. http://eric-mac.blogspot.com/2016/01/virginia-tech-conspiracy-theory.html). I had
also said before in one of my commentary notes – not to the police – that I had
complained to the police about the police following me around in the past. This
might be one of the reasons why the police followed me around and harassed me
if some of them don’t like people complaining about them. But they were also
doing this before I had complained, so even if my complaining about them in the
past was one reason at least some of them were following me around, it seems
like there must also be another reason for this surveillance activity. The
police were also engaging in this surveillance-like activity before I started
taking their pictures or writing about them in my journal which also suggests
there may be another reason for this activity if some of them didn’t like
seeing me taking their pictures or writing about them.
21) See the section on the 1992 US Air crash in
my 38-page letter posted on my website for a further discussion of these
events. (http://musicalsandconspiracy.com/conspiracy/38_page_letter/reading_2004.htm).
22) I believe that this audio recording and
transcript show that I had done or said nothing that would lead a reasonable
person to believe that I was a danger to myself or others. I suppose it’s
possible that I could have done or said something in the unintelligible parts
that would indicate that I was a danger, but I don’t believe I did. And nothing
in the intelligible parts seems to indicate that the officers believed I was a
danger either, outside of LM COP or WM COP2 who would later say that they could
detain me if they believed I was a danger to myself or others. But since he had
not established or even tried to establish a basis for this alleged belief,
outside of saying that he believed that things I had done or said were not
“normal,” nothing approaching evidence seems to have been established or even
offered that would support a reasonable argument for a belief that I was a
danger to myself or others. See my Virginia Tech Conspiracy Theory posting on
my blog for a further discussion of why I do not believe that I was within the
legal standard for involuntary detainment for a psychological evaluation for
possible involuntary commitment in an emergency situation under § 9.41.
(http://eric-mac.blogspot.com/2016/01/virginia-tech-conspiracy-theory.html).
23) See my Virginia Tech Conspiracy Theory
posting on my blog for a further discussion of my rights being violated in
terms of being detained for a psychological evaluation as well as other rights
that I feel had been violated. (http://eric-mac.blogspot.com/2016/01/virginia-tech-conspiracy-theory.html).
24) This, I feel, heavy-handed attempt to have
me psychologically evaluated for possible involuntary commitment is somewhat
similar to attempts by others in the past to have me psychologically evaluated
after I’ve told them about my theory and situation, though they did not use the
law or police or police-like powers in their previous attempts. This attempt
may also be an indication of prior knowledge or connections on the part of some or all of the
police officers and EMT-likes on that day or someone else in that they seemed
to have the similar goal of psychological evaluation as previous people in the
past since my conspiracy-like situation began. See my 38-page letter (http://musicalsandconspiracy.com/conspiracy/38_page_letter/reading_2004.htm) or Joseph
Yanny letter (http://musicalsandconspiracy.com/conspiracy/38_page_letter/appendix/yanny.htm) posted on my website for a recounting of these previous attempts.
25) The distant blurry images from the video and
photo have been posted to my blog at
26) Though since it was around 4:30 p.m. by this
time, it seems like it would have been too late for school to normally be
letting out, so I’m not sure where such a large group of school kids would have
come from. School kids in general also seemed to sometimes be involved in surveilling
me or setting me up to take pictures of their, to me, suspicious activity,
though I was more wary of taking pictures of school-aged kids because of the
general atmosphere of child predators and the like, despite the possible
involvement of some of them in my situation.
27) The Queens College security car parked
outside the library when I had exited and the NYPD police car pulling up with
its light flashing when I exited my subway station would seem to suggest the
type of surveillance and conspiracy that I had alleged when I told the police
officers that I thought that the police were following me around. I’d also had
previous incidents where I felt the Queens College campus police might be
surveilling me, but I believe it had not happened for awhile. I was able to take a picture of
police car 1869 which I’ve posted to my blog ("Photos referred to in my "Transcript and commentary of 'Audio Recording of March 1, 2007 Eric Nakao-NYPD-FDNY Encounter'" blog posting at http://eric-mac.blogspot.com/2016/01/blog-post_1.html and/or my "Virginia Tech Conspiracy Theory" blog posting at http://eric-mac.blogspot.com/2016/01/virginia-tech-conspiracy-theory.html) and 2 videos which I've posted to my Vimeo account ("NYPD Police Car with Lights Flashing" at https://vimeo.com/150448979 / "NYPD Police Car Lights Still Flashing & Number" at https://vimeo.com/150449659).
Posted: January 1, 2016, 2:37 p.m., et
Latest update: August 28, 2016, 1:56 p.m., et
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